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are you -- >> it's hard to say because we don't really know what the nsa is doing. i'm for more transparency but you can't have complete transparency because they are a spy agency. you're keeping secrets. of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows about it -- >> he claimed he didn't know the nsa had been bugging angela merkle for years. >> they are in an agency or oliver norths, we don't need that. >> what about edward snowden in terms of the amount he disclosed. people have a view of manning on wiki lakes. >> movies are too long. yes, i mean the -- i can't remember the guy's name. i think it's bradford who said, you know, when you keep making the haystack bigger, it's harder to find the needle. look how many people are on the terrorist watch list, over a million. how many people have security clearance, how much space we're building to h
are you -- >> it's hard to say because we don't really know what the nsa is doing. i'm for more transparency but you can't have complete transparency because they are a spy agency. you're keeping secrets. of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows...
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late on what the obama administration knew about the nsa surveillance. also ahead, support for legalizing marijuana is at an all-time high so to speak. thank you [ laughter ] >> aisle be here all week. should schools send home letters telling parents their kids are overweight? fat letters a lot of people call them. we'll be talking about all that tonight. we begin with obama care under fire still yet again with the affordable care act already off
late on what the obama administration knew about the nsa surveillance. also ahead, support for legalizing marijuana is at an all-time high so to speak. thank you [ laughter ] >> aisle be here all week. should schools send home letters telling parents their kids are overweight? fat letters a lot of people call them. we'll be talking about all that tonight. we begin with obama care under fire still yet again with the affordable care act already off
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. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me. >> any concerns? >> i don't know what's in his mind. i don't know what he's doing now. he might be in a hot tub with two russian strippers named i want to drink a lot. he's done some service, getting us to at least debate the issue and as far as stuff gone on the last week or so with the european allies being up sit, i can understand if they felt their personal cell phones were being tapped. but on the other hand, they should really climb a little bit. it's been 60, 70 years since america defended allies, especially in europe. we liberated europe twice in the last century. they never wanted
. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me....
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there is no content collected by the nsa. there are bits of data: location, telephone numbers that can be queried when there is reasonable, articulable suspicion. i so regret what is happening. i will do everything i can to prevent this program from being cancelled out. senator, i don't have any questions. >> it is ironic that not only is diane feinstein, who's a democrat, one of the most devoted apologists of the nsa, the position that she occupies in the senate, which is chair of the senate intelligence committee is the position that is supposed to be devoted to overseeing the intelligence community, serving as a watchdog over it, and yet they've managed to put and install into that position, one of the most slavish devotees and loyalist of all of their powers. >> the people who are the ones who are supposed to be watching the intelligence agencies are the ones who end up being their biggest supporters and to some extent, the ones who try to rationalize every form of misconduct that ever gets displayed to us. >> as more and
there is no content collected by the nsa. there are bits of data: location, telephone numbers that can be queried when there is reasonable, articulable suspicion. i so regret what is happening. i will do everything i can to prevent this program from being cancelled out. senator, i don't have any questions. >> it is ironic that not only is diane feinstein, who's a democrat, one of the most devoted apologists of the nsa, the position that she occupies in the senate, which is chair of the...
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for fear of being prosecuted. >> the nsa's goal really is the elimination of privacy globally. it is literally a system designed to monitor all forms of human behavior inside the united states, which is the ultimate surveillance state. >> last december, glenn greenwald received an email from a person who didn't identify himself. >> we still didn't know who he was, where he worked, but he was saying he had access to large amounts of very sensitive surveillance information that show the united states government was violating the law and abusing it's power. >> suddenly in my lap had dropped some of the most potent instruments for shining a light on what it is that they are doing, beyond your wildest dreams as a journalist. i had literally, physically couldn't breathe at points because of excitement and shock. >> the source was edward snowden. >> the nsa specifically targets the communications of everyone. it ingests them by default. it collects them in it's system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them. >> up to that point, the director of
for fear of being prosecuted. >> the nsa's goal really is the elimination of privacy globally. it is literally a system designed to monitor all forms of human behavior inside the united states, which is the ultimate surveillance state. >> last december, glenn greenwald received an email from a person who didn't identify himself. >> we still didn't know who he was, where he worked, but he was saying he had access to large amounts of very sensitive surveillance information that...
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person, the nsa cannot listen to your telephone calls and the nsa cannot target your e-mails. >> and have not? >> and have not. they cannot and have not by law and by rule. >> well, this week we're learning the nsa might have broken into google and yahoo data centers gathering users' account information and maybe e-mails. in the hot seat for reaction, glenn greenwald, he's the journalist who broke the news on the nsa snooping scandal. welcome, glenn. president obama guaranteed, guaranteed the nsa wasn't reading our e-mails. the "washington post" reported that they infiltrated google and yahoo centers so they could in fact read the e-mails. do you think president obama was misinformed or uninformed? >> no. i think neither. think he was informed but chose to tell the public things that he knew to be false. this has really been the nub of the story from the beginning. the top nsa officials lied to the congress about what the nsa does with regards to american communication and president obama repeatedly misled the public. in all sorts of ways, without warrants, the nsa is frequently moni
person, the nsa cannot listen to your telephone calls and the nsa cannot target your e-mails. >> and have not? >> and have not. they cannot and have not by law and by rule. >> well, this week we're learning the nsa might have broken into google and yahoo data centers gathering users' account information and maybe e-mails. in the hot seat for reaction, glenn greenwald, he's the journalist who broke the news on the nsa snooping scandal. welcome, glenn. president obama...
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but some members of congress are skeptical. >> remember the nsa works for the president. so it's a question of did the president want to hear what the chancellor was saying because through his national security advisor he knew or should have known. >> reporter: others say that the white house has to answer to no one. >> the president should stop apologizing. the reality is that the nsa has saved thousands of lives in the united states and france and germany and throughout europe. >> reporter: the nsa ended the eavesdropping after a white house review uncovered the operation this summer. >> and more damaging could be coming. greenwald who first reported that snowden had the documents says that the newspaper will publish new revelations this week. >>> more problems for healthcare.gov this weekend. enrollment went down completely yesterday. the problems have angered many in congress. senator is calling for a one- year delay of the mandate that requires all americans have health insurance by march 31st of next year or pay a fine. >>> turning to sports, the world series heads
but some members of congress are skeptical. >> remember the nsa works for the president. so it's a question of did the president want to hear what the chancellor was saying because through his national security advisor he knew or should have known. >> reporter: others say that the white house has to answer to no one. >> the president should stop apologizing. the reality is that the nsa has saved thousands of lives in the united states and france and germany and throughout...
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>>> new fallout from the nsa scandal. the united states disregarding leaker edward snowden's bid for clemency. his request coming days after a group of lawmakers introduced legislation to rein in the nsa's phone surveillance practices. joining us to talk about it, frederick white, former c.i.a. senior analyst and chief analyst for lignat.com. good to see you. a great many people hail ed snowden as a hero. there is no question he looks in the mirror and sees one. what do you see? >> i see a traitor, gregg. this is a man who has undermined the support of the american people for some programs that have kept us safe from terrorism. but more importantly, putting aside the controversy over the nsa collection issue, this man has leaked very sensitive u.s. collection capabilities to america's enemy, russia, china, cuba, north korea. it's laughable he thinks he should get clemency. >> lawmakers trying to rein in. so nsa surveillance program, the techniques being used. look, spying is the second oldest profession. i think we know w
>>> new fallout from the nsa scandal. the united states disregarding leaker edward snowden's bid for clemency. his request coming days after a group of lawmakers introduced legislation to rein in the nsa's phone surveillance practices. joining us to talk about it, frederick white, former c.i.a. senior analyst and chief analyst for lignat.com. good to see you. a great many people hail ed snowden as a hero. there is no question he looks in the mirror and sees one. what do you see?...
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they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be with "the baltimoresun" and i wrote back in 1985 and can say i was not shocked about any of this, but i think perhaps one of the most interesting questions these documents raise is i refer to the agency as an omnivore. they're under pressure from policymakers, from the white house, see -- cia, dod to the state department to sort of the prepared to supply information on almost anything. inrisis breaks out tomorrow an unexpected place, and nsa is under heavy pressure to produce intelligence from that place. and that combined with a big- budget in secrecy has, i think, created what actually secretary of state
they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over years. european leaders continue to put pressure on the country to for a new spying deal on allies. chefon, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> let's explain why it is some officials have explained perhaps why the president would not know about this for five years. >> as it was explained to us, this type of surveillance is the type of program or decision that would be executed at the level of the national security agency and the way the protocols are set up at this point, that's sort of where the line of information would stop. there isn't n
documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over...
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. >>> word today that the nsa tapped the phones of not one, but 35 world leaders. >>> and new revelations, what the white house supposedly did and did not know about it. >>> also this hour, chris brown arrested again. accused of punching a fan and charged with assault. and yes, he is still on probation for roughing up rihanna. >>> and they squeezed through a maintenance patch above the shower, made their way along the jail's plumbing and air conditioning system and broke through a concrete wall and walked out right out of an unlocked door. armed and dangerous, still on the run this hour. >>> hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. it's monday, october 28th. welcome to "legal view." you do not need to eavesdrop to know that the -- the allies are sounding off this morning. in just a few moments, the british prime minister is due to face parliament. you know how those sessions can get. this morning the u.s. ambassador to spain was called if for dressing down the spanish foreign minister. the spanish newspaper is reporting that the nsa collect locations durations for 60 million phone calls in
. >>> word today that the nsa tapped the phones of not one, but 35 world leaders. >>> and new revelations, what the white house supposedly did and did not know about it. >>> also this hour, chris brown arrested again. accused of punching a fan and charged with assault. and yes, he is still on probation for roughing up rihanna. >>> and they squeezed through a maintenance patch above the shower, made their way along the jail's plumbing and air conditioning...
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that's for the nsa spying on american citizens. where is the committee looking into the nsa and those protected by the constitution. we have a committee spying on foreigners. how about our constitutional rights. >> the idea that she doesn't know. she is talking about -- that's the thing, for obama to say that i had no idea about the strategic nsa program after years of being in charge that defies belief. the president will not have the day-to-day information. to say he is not briefed in on these 30,000-foot programs forget about it. and then for the senator to say she had no idea, either they are twisting the reality for political purposes and that's what i believe they are doing or they are the world's most incurious, uninquiz tiff and uninterested people. >> can it be both? >> it could certainly be both. >> isn't that the commander-in-chief playbook though? it is the iran contra playbook a lot of i don't knows and this person did that and this person did this. >> that is absolutely true. there is always going to be an element of
that's for the nsa spying on american citizens. where is the committee looking into the nsa and those protected by the constitution. we have a committee spying on foreigners. how about our constitutional rights. >> the idea that she doesn't know. she is talking about -- that's the thing, for obama to say that i had no idea about the strategic nsa program after years of being in charge that defies belief. the president will not have the day-to-day information. to say he is not briefed in...
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, which the court has given the nsa the authority to scoop up all of our phone metadata that the nsa -- that the romance have been revealed -- that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden. it could put the country at risk and leave the u.s. open to another terrorist attack. they were not open to that reform in particular. but the other reforms come out some of them, they were open to. >> -- but the other reforms, some of them, they were open to. there is a pretty good likelihood. a lot of these individual reforms are incorporated into broader nsa reform bills that have been introduced. when it comes to the chances of these bills passing, there is bipartisan support, which is something is unusual around congress. bipartisan support can move these. this is something the jan schakowsky said today at the hearing. >> the two individuals who wrote , one republican, one democrat -- yes, one republican, one democrat -- who wrote the usa patriot act shortly after 9/11 have now introduced the usa freedom act that essentially would repeal many of the aspects and change them, of the pa
, which the court has given the nsa the authority to scoop up all of our phone metadata that the nsa -- that the romance have been revealed -- that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden. it could put the country at risk and leave the u.s. open to another terrorist attack. they were not open to that reform in particular. but the other reforms come out some of them, they were open to. >> -- but the other reforms, some of them, they were open to. there is a pretty good...
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archise llenó de protestantes, esto por las acusaciones de espionache de la nsa. el gobierno de los estados unidos ha sido tan criticado por reclamos sobre el espionaje del nsa: aliados extranjeros incluyendo la cansillería alemana. >> en otras noticias, vamos a cambiar de tema totalmente. el fin de semana, chris brown fue arrestado ayer. se informó que el candidato y otro individuo fueron arrestados luego que ayer iniciaran una pelea. a los dos hombres se les formularon cargos por asalto agravado. un hombre resultó gravemente herido y fue llevado de emergencia al hospital. el hombre fue la víctima de los golpes de chris brown. el nombre de la víctima no ha sido revelado. chris brown enfrenta otras acusaciones. >> si vive en área, hoy
archise llenó de protestantes, esto por las acusaciones de espionache de la nsa. el gobierno de los estados unidos ha sido tan criticado por reclamos sobre el espionaje del nsa: aliados extranjeros incluyendo la cansillería alemana. >> en otras noticias, vamos a cambiar de tema totalmente. el fin de semana, chris brown fue arrestado ayer. se informó que el candidato y otro individuo fueron arrestados luego que ayer iniciaran una pelea. a los dos hombres se les formularon cargos por...
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i am the last to know. >> he wants the nsa to shrink. i don't think he is defending it because he wasn't crazy about it to begin with. >> he wants to be liked by angela merkel and the other european leaders. i was horrified when i found this out. >> you say he is lying. >> i have to go. now it is time for "red eye" sunset of the day. this comes from san diego, california. it is beautiful. the sunset of the day is brought to you by vacuum cleaners. they use an air part to suck up dust and dirt usually from floors. thank you, vacuum. >> no problem greg. >> and helping us solve the mysteries of lofl -- of life with a space cannon. i don't know or do i? >>> did mom and dad take away the ipad? they are urging parents to activity manage their children's use of computers, tv and tablets. excessive consumption has lead to obesity, lack of sleep and murder. among other recommendations keep the televisions and the gadgets out of kids' bedrooms. limit screen time to less than two hours a day and discourage all screen media exposure to children to a
i am the last to know. >> he wants the nsa to shrink. i don't think he is defending it because he wasn't crazy about it to begin with. >> he wants to be liked by angela merkel and the other european leaders. i was horrified when i found this out. >> you say he is lying. >> i have to go. now it is time for "red eye" sunset of the day. this comes from san diego, california. it is beautiful. the sunset of the day is brought to you by vacuum cleaners. they use an...
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i think it's because of nsa surveillance. i think it's because of syria and the problems related to that. i think when you put all of these things together, people are looking at the president and saying you know, you're not fixing the problems. >> i think one of the problems, too, has been something the republicans have pushed and pushed it subtly for once, and that is the whole idea that he didn't know anything about anything. republicans have put that, you know, you bring up benghazi, what did you know, when did you know it, you bring up did he understand what was going on with the website. well, no, he really didn't know it. so did he know we were spying on our closest friends, well, no, the president didn't know that. i think it gives people this uneasy sense. we're already in uneasy times economically. obama care just superimposes itself over that and people thinking something that we talk about at my kitchen table is changing here, and that's important. it's not some place far away. it's right here. then you add on top
i think it's because of nsa surveillance. i think it's because of syria and the problems related to that. i think when you put all of these things together, people are looking at the president and saying you know, you're not fixing the problems. >> i think one of the problems, too, has been something the republicans have pushed and pushed it subtly for once, and that is the whole idea that he didn't know anything about anything. republicans have put that, you know, you bring up benghazi,...
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the nsa spying scandal spiraling out of control. a new report out of germany claiming that president obama knew the u.s. was conducting surveillance on chancellor angela merkel in 2010 even though he assured her by phone last week, he did not know anything. this morning, u.s. officials are claiming the obama administration ended the nsa operation that spied on merkel this past summer, as soon as they found out about it. we get more from have been cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: the newest edward snowden documents report more spying on america's closest allies. in spain the nsa reports listening in on 60 million phone calls in a single month and in germany a newspaper reports that president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on german chance large angela merkel's calls back in 2010 and contradicting white house assurances that the president was not aware of the extent of the surveillance. the nsa quickly denied the report saying the following. nor has he ever discussed al
the nsa spying scandal spiraling out of control. a new report out of germany claiming that president obama knew the u.s. was conducting surveillance on chancellor angela merkel in 2010 even though he assured her by phone last week, he did not know anything. this morning, u.s. officials are claiming the obama administration ended the nsa operation that spied on merkel this past summer, as soon as they found out about it. we get more from have been cnn's chief national security correspondent jim...
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it is confirmed that the nsa had been monitoring leaders from 35 nations and the president was not aware of it until this summer. fusion's white house correspondent and tim abala caught up with the president to ask some questions on a tough day. >> you have to suspect that president obama would have preferred to cancel his interview today. in any presidency there are days of hope and promise. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and days of triumph. >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> and then there are days like today. headlines about out of control spying. >> the white house under fire right now given all of these revelations. >> and now sources confirm it was happening apparently without the president's knowledge. and then there is obama care, the website in disarray and the other legacy program, immigration reform, now stalled in partisan politics. this was probably not the day president obama would have chosen to speak one-on-one with abc's new partner, fusion. >> good to see ya. >> good to see y
it is confirmed that the nsa had been monitoring leaders from 35 nations and the president was not aware of it until this summer. fusion's white house correspondent and tim abala caught up with the president to ask some questions on a tough day. >> you have to suspect that president obama would have preferred to cancel his interview today. in any presidency there are days of hope and promise. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and days of triumph....
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the diplomatic crisis is brewing following recent reports of nsa surveillance programs in europe. among those is lungo. she was outraged. former vice president dick cheney said that he believes snowden is a trader, plain and simple. >> i hope we can catch him at some point in time. he violated the conditions under which he got the information. >> reporter: snowden also has his supporters. >>> the fbi held a ceremony to honor its new director. he said he wished his mother could see him now. >> she snapped over the shades every single mother and said, rise and shine and show the world what you're made of. i found it less inspiring at the time, but it made us who we are. and i will never forget that. >> come was the number two official when the nsa's wiretapping program came up for renewal. then attorney general ashrcroft was hospitalized at the time. he became fbi director last month. >>> a local baseball hero and a special tribute to his hometown petaluma and the soon, californians from to salinas to san diego will have equal access to quality health insurance. those who need finan
the diplomatic crisis is brewing following recent reports of nsa surveillance programs in europe. among those is lungo. she was outraged. former vice president dick cheney said that he believes snowden is a trader, plain and simple. >> i hope we can catch him at some point in time. he violated the conditions under which he got the information. >> reporter: snowden also has his supporters. >>> the fbi held a ceremony to honor its new director. he said he wished his mother...
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nsa has been tracking phone calls of 35 world leaders. a lack of trust that could harm the partnership and washington. germany is harboring with brazil for a u.n. resolution. a diplomat said the anger is unlikely to go beyond formal statements. >> on the longer-term after the media has toned down the bigger issue, it will go on as business as usual. that is my expectation. that would not be any real measures. their problem is not that they are spying. the problem is that in a band called as spying. -- that they have been called at spying. they do it for economic reasons. they want to know what europe is going to do. they are afraid that are losing ground. >> shockwaves are being felt. thousands rallied in washington, d.c. venting their anger against nsa and calling for reform. it was billed as the largest in american history. we have more. >> thousands of people gathered on the anniversary of the signing of the patriot act 12 years ago. they believe it was the day and the name of fighting terror their rights were taken away. they believe
nsa has been tracking phone calls of 35 world leaders. a lack of trust that could harm the partnership and washington. germany is harboring with brazil for a u.n. resolution. a diplomat said the anger is unlikely to go beyond formal statements. >> on the longer-term after the media has toned down the bigger issue, it will go on as business as usual. that is my expectation. that would not be any real measures. their problem is not that they are spying. the problem is that in a band called...
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using information leaked by nsa contractor edward snowden, a spanish newspaper reported the nsa collected numbers and locations of the phone calls, but not actual content. this after learning that the nsa has also been tuning into the communications up dirty five world leaders. now the european union parliamentary delegation is preparing for a visit to the u.s. to express concerns over nsa surveillance tactics. political commentator sam sacks brings us more. >> german intelligence officials will come to washington dc to demand answers from the white house about surveillance on chancellor angela merkel. is a marked the partner from just a few months ago, when germany was defending its foes cooperation with the nsa. that was after edward snowden leak in june that the nsa was collecting a half ilya and telephone and internet telik communications every month. chancellor angela merkel was put to defend her government's cooperation with the nsa, saying it prevented terrorist attacks. we can only protect the population if we cooperate with others, her office said. edward snowden describe the coz
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one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content. let me be clear. under 215 the nsa cannot listen to anyone's phonecalls. what section 215 does is allow the government to connect the dots. these dots could have been connected to prevent 9/11 and are necessary to prevent the next attack. we could have determined one of the 9/11 attackers for hijackers was in san diego and made a call to an al qaeda number in yemen. i shudder to think what connections will be missed if the program were completely eliminated. keep in mind law enforcement obtains and analyzes these types of records every day to stop organized crime and keep drugs out. we don't wan
one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content....
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all the work of the nsa. former nsa contractor edward snowden uncovered it. it the steady drip of revelations about the u.s.'s eavesdropping agency is a full- blown gusher. spying isn't new, but cell phoes and computers are. can rules be agreed upon and binding e they have final say. the $52 billion u.s. intelligence. the white house denies an allegation that barack obama was personally briefed in 2010 about spying on the germans. will it wash? is the nsa out of control? a retired cia officer. joining us here is our guest, all about protecting companies. a lawyer specializing in intellectual property, information technology, the list runs long. and from the research center on intelligence. thank you for joining the conversation. many of you have been joining the conversation. i want to start with the latest. not washington, berlin, or madrid, but london. unless the newspapers begin to behave more responsibly, his government is likely to act to stop papers from publishing what he calls damaging leaks by edward snowden. what do you think of that? >> david camer
all the work of the nsa. former nsa contractor edward snowden uncovered it. it the steady drip of revelations about the u.s.'s eavesdropping agency is a full- blown gusher. spying isn't new, but cell phoes and computers are. can rules be agreed upon and binding e they have final say. the $52 billion u.s. intelligence. the white house denies an allegation that barack obama was personally briefed in 2010 about spying on the germans. will it wash? is the nsa out of control? a retired cia officer....
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thanks. >>> turning now to nsa spying. it looks like the spy games admittedly run deep on both sides. james clapper says the u.s. spying on friendly for leaders is common, has been going on for years, and that our allies spy on us in return. >> it's invaluable to us to know where countries are coming from, what their policies are, how that would impact us across a whole range of issues. >> clapper suggested the outrage and surprise expressed by allies in recent days is either naive or disingenuous. >> some of this reminds me a lot of the classic movie casablanca. my god, there is gambling going on here. same kind of thing. >> the capitol hill grilling follows overseas reports on nsa spying in france, germany and spain. but nsa director keith alexander calls those reports false. they defended the data sweeping program as lawful and aimed at foreign terrorists and successful in saving lives. but a german member of the european parliament tells nbc news that confidence is destroyed. today a german delegation is expected at th
thanks. >>> turning now to nsa spying. it looks like the spy games admittedly run deep on both sides. james clapper says the u.s. spying on friendly for leaders is common, has been going on for years, and that our allies spy on us in return. >> it's invaluable to us to know where countries are coming from, what their policies are, how that would impact us across a whole range of issues. >> clapper suggested the outrage and surprise expressed by allies in recent days is...
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>> the nsa uses different techniques. one of the main techniques that it uses as to her spiegel reported is through a consulate in berlin, the nsa since people who pretend to be the elements are there to engage in mass surveillance on the german population as well as target the individual cell phone calls a such ast politicians the chancellor. we did a similar report in of theon the targeting president, the same as happened in mexico were but the current and former mexican presidents were targeted with similar forms of surveillance. this is often done through the way people pretend to be diplomats stationed there for what pretends to be a consulate but really is and nsa outpost. inexploits its positioning the nation capital under diplomatic treaties to target the population and a leading democratically elected leaders with very invasive surveillance. itself, thesy placement, this massive embassy building the u.s. moved into in 2008? >> right. the der spiegel report is using a document that demonstrates that embassy is ess
>> the nsa uses different techniques. one of the main techniques that it uses as to her spiegel reported is through a consulate in berlin, the nsa since people who pretend to be the elements are there to engage in mass surveillance on the german population as well as target the individual cell phone calls a such ast politicians the chancellor. we did a similar report in of theon the targeting president, the same as happened in mexico were but the current and former mexican presidents were...
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thousands of people gathered to rally against nsa surveillance. it comes amidst new reports that the nsa has been monitoring communications of 35 leaders. she is one of our closest allies so needles to say she was not happy about this. she called president obama to give him an earful and it takes a lot ogto get those ears full. if the nsa agents are like most men they are probably only pretending to listen to what she was saying anyway. the nsa has been wiretapping years but obama didn't know about it until this summer when he ordered them to stop. here in the united states they claim that the spying programs do more good than harm and that their primary objective is to protect us and they make a pretty purr swersuasive case. >> fbi, do not eat that pie. >> we have reason to believe that the condensed milk used in that pie is expired. >> yep. it expireded. >> how did you know? >> we live in your pantry. >> why? >> also you're out of berry burst cheerio. >> don't answer that. say it again? copy that? it's your step sister. >> isn't this an invasion
thousands of people gathered to rally against nsa surveillance. it comes amidst new reports that the nsa has been monitoring communications of 35 leaders. she is one of our closest allies so needles to say she was not happy about this. she called president obama to give him an earful and it takes a lot ogto get those ears full. if the nsa agents are like most men they are probably only pretending to listen to what she was saying anyway. the nsa has been wiretapping years but obama didn't know...
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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this time about the nsa tapping world alabalealleys. fault lines correspondent explores what it is like to live under constant surveillance. ♪ >> in many ways the nsa surveillance story can seem abstract. sure the sgovment collecting information, but what does that really mean for someone's life? to fine out we went to meet a group of people who definitely know they are being spied on. >> after 9/11 it wasn't just the nsa that increased surveillance. here at the city level in new york, the nypd brought in to senior officials from the cia to help spy on its own citizens. the program is targeting one community, muslims. secret documents show that the nypd is conducting surveillance of entire muslim neighborhoods. >> they visited book stores, cafes, hookah joints, of course mosques. >> reporter: and record conversations using hidden microphones, collect the names and phone gragaits. >> how were they reacting to foreign events abroad, the egyptian revolution or the cartoons about the profit mohammed, what were they saying in the surmonth.
this time about the nsa tapping world alabalealleys. fault lines correspondent explores what it is like to live under constant surveillance. ♪ >> in many ways the nsa surveillance story can seem abstract. sure the sgovment collecting information, but what does that really mean for someone's life? to fine out we went to meet a group of people who definitely know they are being spied on. >> after 9/11 it wasn't just the nsa that increased surveillance. here at the city level in new...
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>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state wants this, department of state wants to know this. or somebody else wants to know that. priorities are ranked. as i understand it these are the priorities. one, terrorism. two, support of our military abroad. three, nuclear counter proliferation. four, hard targets. and now cyber. and those are the main areas. so essentially the nsa is told to do certain things and it does it. what i think we need to do, we work very well with the house committee and leadership, mike rogers and congressman rupersberger is review of the intelligence framework o
>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state...
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onlyrities, to the nsa, under a court warrant approved by this court. here is where the problem comes into being. those legal restrictions only apply to users who reside on the territory of the united states. what this report says is basically that the nsa has been going through servers around the world because of course google, yahoo!, others among them who were not in the report have a lot of servers not just on u.s. soil but all over the place. many are in europe. what the nsa effectively is allegedly doing is by tapping into those servers on foreign territories, it is not subject to the u.s. court. it is not subject to any restrictions or at least very loose restrictions, very weak oversight. essentially.g them what they are doing it by tapping into this data, into the servers, these centers in europe, you are scooping up millions and millions of records. video, can contain text, audio, all the stuff that you sent back and forth. sure, they say that their job is to get only foreigners, suspected foreigner's intelligence, but of course there are a lo
onlyrities, to the nsa, under a court warrant approved by this court. here is where the problem comes into being. those legal restrictions only apply to users who reside on the territory of the united states. what this report says is basically that the nsa has been going through servers around the world because of course google, yahoo!, others among them who were not in the report have a lot of servers not just on u.s. soil but all over the place. many are in europe. what the nsa effectively is...
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to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you would find in any nation states in the european union. >> . >> computer networks inside the european union for what they are up to. >> absolutely. >> whow about al quaida, could they use, is it possible for them to use the networks found in the european union to conduct planning operations or execution of operations? >> could. absolutely. >> and would bit in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities especially if it went through the european union and maybe even targeted at the united states o
to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you...
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that while new complaints allege the nsa tapped private citizens. nbc's tracie potts is in washington for us. tracie, good morning to you. here's a hearing on capitol hill today. what might we learn? >> reporter: well, the hearing is going to solve some of the top administration officials on intelligence. the director of national intelligence, james clapper, the head of the nsa, the national security agency, general keith alexander and others who lawmakers want to ask, how extensive are these surveillance programs? why are they necessary? and particularly as we've learned of late, why are we tapping cell phones and other conversations of our allies, of world leaders like angela merkel, the german chancellor. the germans are really upset about this. they're calling for an investigation. even some democrats are saying it's over the top to tap cell phones of our allies like senator dianne feinstein. her senate intelligence committee may also be looking into this. in a statement, she said "with respect to nsa collection of intelligence on leaders of u.s
that while new complaints allege the nsa tapped private citizens. nbc's tracie potts is in washington for us. tracie, good morning to you. here's a hearing on capitol hill today. what might we learn? >> reporter: well, the hearing is going to solve some of the top administration officials on intelligence. the director of national intelligence, james clapper, the head of the nsa, the national security agency, general keith alexander and others who lawmakers want to ask, how extensive are...
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. >>> a just paper has released a further report on classified documents from a former nsa contractor. it says japan may be among countries spied on by the u.s.. >>> and residents of the resort city of sochi are in a whirl of activity three months ahead of the winter olympics. >>> chinese officials are tightening security in beijing ahead of a key meeting. the increased measures follow last week's fatal car crash near tiananmen square which the government teamdeemed an act of terror. officials have been ordered to quash acts of terrorism in the planning stage. the website shed quo inspected police boxes in the capital on monday. he urged police officers to increase their visibility so citizens will feel safer and said china faces a tough fight against terrorism. he called for extra vigilance. last week a sport utility vehicle veered into a crowd of tourists and burst into flames. three passengers were killed along with two by stapders. chinese authorities arrested five in connection with the skept. all are believed to be members of the uighur minority group. the third plenary is due t
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if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address civil liberties and privacy issues that you're not doing? >> from my perspective, no. one of the things, and i was just going to have chris add one element if i could on here to your question. >> we'd actually just described a note to ourselves, but at nsa, the annual dollars we spend on this, the 30 million, and we have 300 full-time e qif lance, but what i scribed on the note is it's everybody's job. everyone has a role to play in compliance. we bring our employees in on their first day whether military or civilian, we give them all the oath of office, tell them it's to the constitution, the whole
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. >>> now to this widening and nsa spying story. all of it coming by leaks by the former u.s. defense contractor edward snowden. tonight's revelations involve very big names in the internet and e-mail world. now big companies are calling for new privacy laws to stop u.s. intelligence agencies from breaking into their data overseas. for more on all of it we turn to our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. the tech companies worry they are losing an arm's race with the nsa which nbc news confirms has been hacking into google and yahoo data centers around the world as fast as the company has put up firewalls. vacuuming up e-mail and phone records. google and yahoo data centers in all corners of the globe reach targets by data collection by nsa and british intelligence. as first reported in the "washington post" they found more documents leaked by edward snowden, hundreds of thousands of e-mails, search queries and other activity collected, decoded and filtered and possible intelli
. >>> now to this widening and nsa spying story. all of it coming by leaks by the former u.s. defense contractor edward snowden. tonight's revelations involve very big names in the internet and e-mail world. now big companies are calling for new privacy laws to stop u.s. intelligence agencies from breaking into their data overseas. for more on all of it we turn to our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, good evening. >>...
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worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet on afghanistan and meet on drone use and meet on surelts. you saw dick cheney surveillance. they are still in the republican establishment a strong defense whatever the. in sa is doing. in the end it will be interesting to see whether or not the new coalition is the majority. >> charles, has any of this, as it's come out and steve is quite right because the initial headlines sometimes isn't backed up by what we find out, has any of it changed your mind about edward snowden and whether or not he is a whistle blower or somewhere on the spectrum to t
worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet...
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more nsa spying revelations and the potential impact on the u.s. relations with our allies. >>> back to jail. singer chris brown appearing in court in washing on the d.c. today facing new assault charges. will this jeopardize his freedom? join us for these stories and all. breaking news today at 4:00 right after dr. phil. >> your five-day ,,,,,,,, >>> welcome back. a seasonal day today. a nice warm-up. your five-day forecast. >> just one dip in the road. tomorrow we're going to be running about 60 degrees or so, but 65. halloween at 72. breezy. watch for a cold front come through the air with a shower or sunshine. still 74 out ahead of that action and even down to 66 on saturday. at that point, it's still going to be four degrees above normal. we'll hold out hopes for a nice sunday. now we'll go back inside. >> don't miss the cbs primetime line-up t at wjz. at 10:00, it's hostages followed by eyewitness news at 11:00. >>> there's said to be a girl's best friend but even guys are going to want to take a looken at this. the world's biggest orange dia
more nsa spying revelations and the potential impact on the u.s. relations with our allies. >>> back to jail. singer chris brown appearing in court in washing on the d.c. today facing new assault charges. will this jeopardize his freedom? join us for these stories and all. breaking news today at 4:00 right after dr. phil. >> your five-day ,,,,,,,, >>> welcome back. a seasonal day today. a nice warm-up. your five-day forecast. >> just one dip in the road. tomorrow...
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when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks pit the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operations. but isn't it time to turn the page on your cup of joe? gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. net weight 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ chuckles ] [ announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. store and...
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general keith has said the nsa and the cyber threat commands with the u.s. army are indistinguishable. what is the potential impact with the right to protect with domestic issues and foreign issues? a classic example would be with the mexican cartels and all instances across the mexican border and with syria. >> want to start domestic and go foreign or start foreign and go domestic? one of the problems on overeignty is the actual definition of sovereignty. one of the problems we had in pakistan was that in questions when we were accused of violating the sovereignty of pakistan to kill osama bin laden, one of the counter arguments made from our side was that pakistan does not control the entire sovereignty of its country. the pakistani army does not extend its writ to the border f afghanistan. that is one of the reasons america has to take other measures. what i am getting at is be careful about the solidity of sovereignty. it is a spongy concept in a lot of the countries we are dealing with. second, the idea of how this has changed over the last 18 years. th
general keith has said the nsa and the cyber threat commands with the u.s. army are indistinguishable. what is the potential impact with the right to protect with domestic issues and foreign issues? a classic example would be with the mexican cartels and all instances across the mexican border and with syria. >> want to start domestic and go foreign or start foreign and go domestic? one of the problems on overeignty is the actual definition of sovereignty. one of the problems we had in...
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the nsa is collecting all of this data. revelations coming out with the snowden revelations. >> it's getting more scrutiny than it did before. what is interesting is it wasn't until the white house launched this interagency review that they started figuring out what was going on. there has been this call for nsa transparency but probably the first place they should start with transparency should be within the government a little bit. what has been interesting, the revelation versus led to more transparency, but some of that has been forcing the government to also put out more information far beyond what mr. snowden has put out. >> in crawlly, you served in the state department is it possible that the white house didn't necessarily know what the nsa is doing with their collecting and whether or not they're spying on world leaders? >> it's absolutely like i he didn't know. the president said he didn't know. the president provides strategic guidance but the tactical decisions of how you go about getting the information that le
the nsa is collecting all of this data. revelations coming out with the snowden revelations. >> it's getting more scrutiny than it did before. what is interesting is it wasn't until the white house launched this interagency review that they started figuring out what was going on. there has been this call for nsa transparency but probably the first place they should start with transparency should be within the government a little bit. what has been interesting, the revelation versus led to...
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german lawmaker he sent a letter to the german government offering his help in investigating alleged nsa spying on german but coming to germany does not appear to be an option for snowden now over to get more on that from our chief political correspondent in just a moment but first this report dozens of journalists crowded and the press conference to hear what comes to stand some of them had to say about his meeting with edward snowdon and his letter to the german government. snowden potentially speak to german investigators or politicians or even travel to germany to be interviewed for stand up to envisage coming to gemini is a guaranteed he would often with the secure in germany or in the comparable country and that's the guise of not dying from orange dog sees god is. snowdon told the green party politician he would prefer to testify in russia. president putin has granted him asylum there. as long as he keeps a low political profile. so could this mean german asylum for the former intelligence analyst. earlier this year the german interior ministry said he did not fulfill conditions r
german lawmaker he sent a letter to the german government offering his help in investigating alleged nsa spying on german but coming to germany does not appear to be an option for snowden now over to get more on that from our chief political correspondent in just a moment but first this report dozens of journalists crowded and the press conference to hear what comes to stand some of them had to say about his meeting with edward snowdon and his letter to the german government. snowden...